Delicious Range Of Products Learn More. ), @BruceJames Come on, man, just because I don't think the OU has a monopoly on deciding Jewish law doesn't mean I think anyone who calls himself a rabbi is knowledgeable. Yoplait yogurt carries KD (Kosher Dairy) Certification, certified by Rabbi Barnett Hasden. (note that Yoplait only has a KD, not a certified symbol), 2021 Stack Exchange, Inc. user contributions under cc by-sa. à° à°¨à°à°¾! OJA, Oral History #309, © 2009 Ontario Jewish Archives | UJA Federation. I challenge anyone reading this who is a yireh shamayim to simply pick up a phone and call Rabbi Hasdan yourself. 18 When did kosher bakeries, restaurants, etc. We use gelatin in some of our yogurts to prevent the yogurt from separating and to maintain the smooth and creamy texture throughout the shelf life of our yogurt. During the late 1960s, members of the local Jewish community actively resisted efforts to include religious instruction in public schools on the grounds that it discriminated against minority religious groups. We know gelatin matters to a lot of our vegetarian fans out there, and we do offer a few products that are gelatin free: Kids Cup, 32oz Lg Size, and Yoplait Smooth Strawberry, Blueberry, and Horchata. Not really sure what the gloves have to do with it, then. Rabbi Lamont led the first services at the opening of the new synagogue on Grey Street in 1961. disgusting...Mahloqeth destroys bodily health, peace of mind, and Those who keep quiet tend to be not recommended because rabbis have no basis for making a recommendation. manner, you will be sanctified even in the eyes of your enemies, who Rabbi Heisler is just as entitled to a halachik opinion as whatever rabbi certified those cars. It asks for information that could be useful. Reply z. zsero Nov 8, 2010 09:12 AM re: robocop That's Bernard (or Dov) Hazdan. ", @EllenGreenberg, Welcome to Judaism.SE! Mori Yusef Qafih z"l once stated that many of the differences in halakhah which we face between religious Jews are merely DeRabbanan, while the issur of arousing a mahloqeth is from the Torah itself. and communities disbanded, pious ones lost, the faithful destroyed, To do so is a very grave sin. Yoplait states that Rabbi Hasden certifies their Yogurt, and that it contains gelatin derived from Kosher beef. The Long Island advance. In 1967, Alex Devon, Saul Laskin and Rabbi Barnett Hasden prepared a brief articulating their opposition, which was submitted to the Committee on Religious Education in the Public Schools. He was raised in New York and was educated at the Reconstructionist Rabbincal College in Philadelphia. Page 1106 of 4105. Anyone considering eating this should call the Rabbi and see if he is using opinion #2. If so, what? The Shaarey Shomayim executive in 1984 included three women: the vice-president Carol Morris, secretary Arlene Goldstein and treasurer Lynda Betcherman. In this It's from bones. With two exceptions, Amyâs products are certified as Kosher Dairy or Kosher Parve as noted in our special diets section. We know gelatin matters to a lot of our vegetarian fans out there, and we do offer a few products that are gelatin free: Kids Cup, 32oz Lg Size, and ⦠I'd just recommend that you check with your Rabbi before acting on said information. (Regarding Rabbi Hasden's hashgacha, see this related question).I do not know whether either of those rabbis provide supervision with kashrus standards that are widely considered acceptable. Known Cities: Staten Island NY, 10309, Brooklyn NY 11218, New York NY 10013 Possible Relatives: Bonny Lynn Hasden, Dale L Hasden, Leon C Hasden Young people preparing for their Bar and Bat Mitzvahs have had to rely on audio tapes and the assistance of local family members. A. You've only said enough to someone who doesn't know anything about Kashrut. After Rabbi Siegel and his family moved to Saskatoon in 1974, many of his suggestions were adopted by Shaarey Shomayim, which has since followed an egalitarian service. I have had almost this very thing happen to me when I tell people that they can speak to a certain rav about what I hold with whom I am close. I think some specific issues rather than vague generalities would be more productive. It is, in general, not considered as reliable as the OU/OK/CRC, but the best thing to do would be to ask your LOR (Local Orthodox Rabbi). The gelatin is certified Kosher and carries KD (Kosher Dairy) Certification from Rabbi Barnett Hasden. When is a restaurant that serves bacon considered kosher? In a letter of his impressions of Thunder Bay, he writes of his struggles with the expectation of the community that the rabbi be Orthodox, even though only the Siegels and the Halters were practicing Orthodox Jews among the congregation’s membership at that time. Currently, Dov is single. (3 days ago) The gelatin is certified Kosher and carries KD (Kosher Dairy) Certification from Rabbi Barnett Hasden. There are two opinions in Gelatin - one is that it has to be from Kosher slaughtered animals, and the other is that it doesn't (it is so far from food anymore that it doesn't even need to be Kosher). However, it is does not become all of a sudden mutar to spread rumors about his kosher certification which almost certainly jeopardizes his parnasah. Kosher certification: Kosher Dairy - Certified by Rabbi Barnett Hasden of Ner Tamid K in Staten Island, NY Organic info: USDA Certified Organic by QAI Made in: USA . Some say the kosher gelatin in yoplait yogurt is agar-agar or fish derived since to qualify to be kosher, meat and diary products cannot be combined. Any information about Rabbi Barnett Hasden's "Ner Tamid K" hechsher. Each package contains one 1.35 oz bar Each 12 pack contains 12 - 1.35 oz packages. Know the greatness I believe he is more lenient with the definition of kosher cheese than what passes these days. Hebrew school was taught by Barry Rosenberg, Judy Rosenberg and Penny Grief in the 1980s. In general, however, products will be checked to ensure that: Food manufacturers usually pay a fee and voluntarily submit their food products for halal certification. Distance yourself from Additional possibly relevant information: I have only ever seen Ner Tamid K on restaurants which have already lost their previous hashgacha over some other issue. I'm really not sure what to make of the first one (I'm trying to be Melamed Zchus, but if someone else can actually state a justification that would be great), but the second one isn't a Kosher issue per se, it is more a problematic behavior on the part of the certifier. Meat products (non-pork) have been slaughtered under. @NoachmiFrankfurt, It is possible that the arrangement is basically it is all pre-made food, and order the Kosher stuff if you keep Kosher kind of thing. “The employees have to wear gloves. @BruceJames There are no "objective best practices". Rabbis like recluse themselves for political reasons. In other words, if he is willing to claim something - in our times of unprecedented telecommunications - about Rav Feinshtein then I can trust that the statement is true. (Patchogue, N.Y.) 1961-current, November 02, 1978, Page 30, Image 30, brought to you by Suffolk Cooperative Library ⦠I've been looking up an answer to that question for the past hour and realized everyone's got a variety of opinions. In 1967, Alex Devon, Saul Laskin and Rabbi Barnett Hasden prepared a brief articulating their opposition, which was submitted to the Committee on Religious Education in the Public Schools. Rabbis are usually hired to lead High Holiday services. Leon was born in Chattanooga to the late Flora and Max Hasden, and was the younger brother of Rabbi Barnett Hasden ⦠The words which the Ramba"m wrote in a letter to his son, Rabbenu Avraham ring very true to this discussion: “Do not engage in mahloqeth which makes one’s nefesh He also informed me that Rav Reuven eats all of Amy's pareve products, but ONLY due to the fact that Rav Reuven is strict on Halav Yisrael and NOT because the cheese products are not kosher. Kay Kosher Supervision, 73-09 136th Street, Kew Garden Hills, NY 11367. Later on, Chezzi Zion came up from Toronto to lead services for some time. Amyâs has a new gluten free biscotti. all its lovers and friends. I strongly recommend that you ask your Rabbi questions like this. He is a student of the late Rav Moshe Feinshtein z"l and he told me that if I wanted to know if he was a ne'eman then I could call Rav Reuven Feinshtein shlit"a and ask him. Until you show me in. He then studied in the Hassidic tradition in Winnipeg before taking the position in Thunder Bay. 2011-08-31T22:50:10.813. This is like Rash"i's comment on the parashah of the spies, i.e. Just to let you all know, I did call Rav Reuven Feinstein about this question and was told that although Rabbi Hasdan does daven in their yeshivah, he was not in the business of certifying the validty of kashrus agencies. Many yogurt brands contain gelatin which is extracted from animal bones, cartilage, hooves, scales and other animal parts. the honorable undeservedly shamed - all from mahloqeth. So if it's just the donuts and lets assume any ovens for the donuts are specialized, then there shouldn't be much of an issue. There are only a few products that are not certified at this time due to the presence of nonâkosher red wine vinegar. All the organizations in the world can make up their own standards and it won't change the Halacha. Rabbi Lazar Karalitzky, 25-15 Union Street, Apt. Barnett Rabbi Hasden, age 85, Staten Island, NY 10309 View Full Report. That's ok. (I agree with you about sharing whatever standard they hold of publicly, but I disagree with calling certain standards "better" than others. (718) 263-1574; Fax: (718) 263-1575. You should ask your LOR whom you can rely on. In recent years, however, the school program has not been viable in Thunder Bay, because of the small number of students. Rabbi Siegel favoured mixed-gender seating in the synagogue and the introduction of a more liberal service to reflect the changing Jewish community in Thunder Bay. I converted your answer into a comment because it doesn't really answer the question. Through his involvement in drafting an open letter on the issue of educational reform and religious teaching in the public school system, we know that Rabbi Barnett Hasden was affiliated with Shaarey Shomayim in ⦠If after a conversation with this obviously religious (read, "Orthodox") Jewish man you are still not satisfied then by all means feel free to continue to abstain from eating the products he supervises. Previous to Dov's current city of Staten Island, NY, Dov Hazdan lived in New York NY. I have seen pure ones blackened, families plagued @Maimonist please hold the ad hominem out of this. 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https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/5435/any-information-about-rabbi-barnett-hasdens-ner-tamid-k-hechsher/5490#5490. Nothing to do with how processed it is. Ask your own Rabbi if that approach is compatible with your general level of observance. Amyâs became certified in November of 2003. Rabbi Dov Hazdan. https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/5435/any-information-about-rabbi-barnett-hasdens-ner-tamid-k-hechsher/5436#5436, https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/5435/any-information-about-rabbi-barnett-hasdens-ner-tamid-k-hechsher/31947#31947. @DoubleAA, Gelatin isn't just made from the bones though. When and when not to rely on Bittul is a complex question and different rabbis may have different opinions. Yoplait is a brand of yogurt. May we all be zokheh to put away damaging speech, distance ourselves completely from mahloqeth, and treat each other with the dignity and respect due a fellow Jew. Sorry, no source. Be proud of restraint. The bottom line is that it is pretty clear from a story like this that this is a certifier that is very lenient (as compared to what people are generally used to in other certifications). I already asked if I could take the donkey on the hills, rocks, etc. 20 Does a Food Mashgiach have to Sacrifice his Life? However, in any event (especially according to the second) it would be Pareve. and/or "How does this hechsher's standards differ from those of more widely-known hechshers? Apparently, some Dannon yogurts (with K) and Yoplait yogurts (with KD) are under the supervision of Rabbi David Sheinkopf and Rabbi Barnett Hasden, respectively. However, for a company the size of Yoplait, I wonder where they get all that Kosher product from. June 6, 2002 | Clip Of House Session This clip, title, and description were not created by C-SPAN. I have spoken with Rabbi Barnett Hasdan myself and his response was that everything is under his strict kosher supervision. (Regarding Rabbi Hasden's hashgacha, see this related question).I do not know whether either of those rabbis provide supervision with kashrus standards that are widely considered acceptable. they still have not plumbed the awful horrors of mahloqeth...", “Therefore, despise mahloqeth and flee it. The shul also faced the difficulty of drawing enough members together to form a minyan for Friday Shabbat services. The politics and arguments over kashrus certification are almost never le-shem shamayim. Although it was not surprising at all that this was his response. Why would gelatin be a problem with milk? 2011-11-27T14:19:12.373 22 What Issues Exist with the Tablet K Hecksher? @CodeswithHammer KD is not tradmarked IIUC. My understanding is it's generally not up to the usual standards you may be used to. If I was to compare it to another hechsher, it would be Tablet K. There is a lot of rumour and controversy surrounding the reliability and acceptance of the Ner Tamid K (Rabbi Hasden). Take from it what you wish. As noted in a Mishpacha magazine article a few months ago, that included a round table discussion by several kashrus experts, the most acceptable hechshers are those who communicate and share information on policies and procedures, and even problems they experience, with the rabbis of other hechshers as well as local rabbeim. 2-E, Flushing, NY 11354. Leon Coleman Hasden, age 78, devoted father and husband, played his last hand at home surrounded by family on Sunday, July 26th, 2015. According to a friend whose family owns some of the Dunkin Donuts franchises in Massachusetts, the donuts are made in a seperate factory. 19 Why doesn't the OU put DE on food packages anymore? Anyone who knows about the intense competition and mud-slinging which often accompanies the determination of who is a religious enough Jew to supervise kosher food and who is not knows this to be the case. https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/5435/any-information-about-rabbi-barnett-hasdens-ner-tamid-k-hechsher/38171#38171. will appreciate your greatness of spirit...". - yoplait customer service -